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Dave Flook

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Recording Your Trial Ebook

It is my duty as a reporter to investigate reports and claims of misinformation being spread by the Family Law Court Clerks. For my investigation I called Ontario Court Houses asked the very simple question:

"Can I bring a digital recorder to my own trial to for records purposes?"

Below is the audio recordings from each Court House. Recording your own trial is perfectly legal as outlined in the Courts Of Justice Act 136: Exception 2(b)

To download a free ebok called "Recording Your Own Court Hearing In Ontario" please click here.

Prohibition against photography, etc., at court hearing

136.Subject to subsections (2) and (3), no person shall,

(a) take or attempt to take a photograph, motion picture, audio recording or other record capable of producing visual or aural representations by electronic means or otherwise,

(i) at a court hearing,

(ii) of any person entering or leaving the room in which a court hearing is to be or has been convened, or

(iii) of any person in the building in which a court hearing is to be or has been convened where there is reasonable ground for believing that the person is there for the purpose of attending or leaving the hearing;

(b) publish, broadcast, reproduce or otherwise disseminate a photograph, motion picture, audio recording or record taken in contravention of clause (a); or

(c) broadcast or reproduce an audio recording made as described in clause (2) (b). R.S.O. 1990, c. C.43, s. 136 (1).

Exceptions

(2)Nothing in subsection (1),

(a) prohibits a person from unobtrusively making handwritten notes or sketches at a court hearing; or

(b) prohibits a lawyer, a party acting in person or a journalist from unobtrusively making an audio recording at a court hearing, in the manner that has been approved by the judge, for the sole purpose of supplementing or replacing handwritten notes. R.S.O. 1990, c. C.43, s. 136 (2); 1996, c. 25, s. 1 (22).

Exceptions

(3)Subsection (1) does not apply to a photograph, motion picture, audio recording or record made with authorization of the judge,

(a) where required for the presentation of evidence or the making of a record or for any other purpose of the court hearing;

(b) in connection with any investitive, naturalization, ceremonial or other similar proceeding; or

(c) with the consent of the parties and witnesses, for such educational or instructional purposes as the judge approves.

 

City
Phone #
Name
Recorder Allowed
Audio
Sarnia
Family - Ontario Court of Justice
519-333-2950
Julie
N

This was the first message that Julie left on my answering machine after I called and inquired about the recorder in court.


This is Julie's second message that she left a week later on my machine (at 8am). Her answer is getting better but she still doesn't understand the Courts Of Justice Act 136:Exception 3(a)

Woodstock
Family - Ontario Court of Justice

519-539-6187


N


I dont think she ever fully understood that she gave out the wrong information.
Belleville
Family - Ontario Court of Justice
613-962-9106

Teresa

N


I misquoted 136 (I said 116). I dont think she liked me very much.
Welland
Family - Ontario Court of Justice

905-735-0010

Tammy (supervisor)

N


Toronto - University Ave.
Family - Ontario Court of Justice

416-327-2064


N


She hung up on me....
Newmarket
Family - Ontario Court of Justice

905-853-4809


N


They kept passing me off to other people..... then finally to an answering machine.
Peterborough
Family - Ontario Court of Justice

705-876-3809

Court Supervisor

???


Fingers crossed :)
Stratford
Family - Ontario Court of Justice

519-271-1850

Court Supervisor
N


"The Courts Are Very Credible"
Perry Sound
Family - Ontario Court of Justice

705-746-4251

Karen

Yes!!


FINALLY!!! I called her back and we actually had a really good conversation about the courts. Nice to see someone actually do their job.
London
London Courthouse


N


I actually went into the courthouse with my recorder and recorded this live. She says I cannot record my own trial and that it states that in her "RULEBOOK". When I ask to see the rule book her memory gets all fuzzy and she has a hard time remembering what law it was that governs recorders. She ends up passing the "rulebook" (which was the courts of justice act btw) over to me and said "here. Its in here". Good job London.

She also states that you cannot even bring a digital recorder into the BUILDING and that security would take it away. This is completely wrong! There is nothing that states that security can take away ANY recording device.

Chatham
Chatham Courthouse
519-355-2200 Nicole Briggley - Supervisor
N

I appreciate Nicole answering the questions and providing her time for the investigation.
Gail Laws
Policy Advisor

Ministry Of The Attorney General
Court Services Devision
416 314 4596 Gail Laws N



You know the courts and staff need some serious reeductation when their own POLICY ADVISOR gets it wrong!.

In this message Gail tells us that it is up to the judge and that it is their courtroom (For the record Gail courtrooms belong to the public and not Judges and they are limited by the law).

Here is their trickery. If you ASK permission to use a recording device then YES it is up to the judge since you have relinguished your right to make your own decision regarding recorders.

What Gail doesnt mention is that if you DO NOT ASK the judge then it its perfectly legal for you to record REGARDLESS of the judges decision.

So, thanks to Gail I have now made it a point to advise people to never ask permission from judges to record. Simply, record. If they disallow you then they are breaking the law.

Thanks Gail.

 

Here is a very interesting clip that was submitted by one of our members. The clip is of a message a court reporter left regarding transcripts. In the clip the employee says that the court transcripts have to be approved by the judge before they are released.."PENDING ANY CHANGES HE MIGHT WANT MADE"

If you think for a single second that court transcripts are never altered by unprofessional and downright corrupt judges then you are in for a shocking reality.